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 | wildman2
Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2 paoli,pa 
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2005-02-12 105974
Thru the woods and then laying in some grass?
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| hardwood
Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3583 iowa 
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2005-02-12 105977
wildman2; I think as long as you either pull out the small trees or cut them and dig out the stumps ahead of the box blade you'll do ok. Roots can give a box blade a hard time. Frank. ....
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 | JParker
Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 152 Richmond, VA
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2005-02-13 105996
I am beginning to agree with grinder that the way to deal with stumps is dynomite or a stump grinder.
The first one is more satisfying, but the second one is more practical.
For small trees / stumps I have found a sub-soiler very useful. I use it to cut the roots on all sides as best I can then push the tree over with the FEL.
Once the tree is down, sometimes you can hook under the stump and pull it up with sub-soiler on the 3 point.
I did this for 5 or 6 trees this afternoon.
Good luck.
-jp ....
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 | bmeyer
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 175 Central Wisconsin
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2005-02-13 106003
I wanted to do the same thing last summer in my woods. Got a rear blade at first but it didn't work well. Swapped it for a box blade and life was fun again.
I didn't have many BIG roots but lots of 1" stuff. The teeth on the box blade tore through most. I could lift others out of the soil and then get big ones with a cutter or axe. Pulling the soil smooth was easy as it stays in the box instead of sliding out over the ends as it did with my first blade.
I found that several passes work much better than trying to do it all in one pass. I'm new to CUT's and everyone else probably knew that. ....
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 | Iowafun
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 955 Central Iowa 
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2005-02-13 106007
Anyone know if that subsoiler would work to destroy gopher tunnels? Looks like it might distrupt them. ....
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 | dsg
Join Date: Jun 1999 Posts: 528 Franklin, Maine 
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2005-02-13 106020
Don't know what you have for a tractor, but if it can pull a Box Blade with scarifies that would be what you need. It could take out 2 or 3" stumps and roots with enough tractor.
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| havoctec
Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 56 Minnesota
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2005-02-14 106047
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Most gopher tunnels are 6-18' deep so if the subsoiler goes that deep it will destroy that part of the tunnel but it will not get rid of the gopher. It will just dig a new tunnel. ....
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 | Murf
Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 7249 Toronto Area, Ontario, Canada
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2005-02-14 106054
Based on a little experience building trails for golf courses, here's how I see it.
Is it possible to make a trail through the woods with a box blade on a CUT? Yes, no doubt.
Will it be easy, efficient, and render a good trail? Not very likely, at least not without anything less than a LARGE measure of time and patience.
We find the best tool for this job (and in fact what we use) is a small tracked excavator with a thumb. To be fair though, for us, time is money. We can, and have, done it with a box blade on a CUT, but the difference is night & day.
You will find that amongst the problems are;
You are constantly working at the end of a 'dead end' and will have the material you want rid of, stumps, etc., behind you, and will spend (waste?) a lot of time driving around or else will be forced to just push it off the side into unsightly piles of dirt and rubbish.
As the ground under the box blade undulates, so to will the ground under the tractor, but at a different rate and possibly direction. The result will be that levelling and following the grounds contour will be a real PITA.
After construction the trail will be constantly suffering from erosion. No matter how hard you try it will be nearly impossible to end up with smooth edges, feathered into the existing grounds grade, nor flat & level. This WILL cause rain water to run in the trail, and likely not be able to escape off to the sides, this will result in ongoing maintenance headaches.
The bottom line, IMHO, is if you are proposing to do it this way, limit your work to nothing more than clearing the trail, do NO earth-works more than ABSOLUTELY necessary and as fast as practical, restore vegetative ground cover.
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 | acerguy
Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 69 Wisconsin
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2005-02-14 106066
I would like to second some of Murf's comments regarding building a GOOD trail. I don't know exactly what kind of terrain you're talking about but drainage is all important. The link below is really for single-track design (hiking, mountain biking, horses) but many of the points are applicable no matter what you're doing.
I'm actually in a similar situation with a lot of trails that I would like to build (for a variety of purposes). Personally I'm looking at a combination of box blade, rear scraper blade and, last but not least, hand tools! (pulaski, Mcleod, rake and tamper). :) ....
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